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mattjhsn

Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 67

first! this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or group or something.

1 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 7:23:27 AM, Views: 8

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 3

Hello, lets talk us about some technology.

2 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 4:40:32 PM, Views: 8

Ok I'm emailing you back.
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Sent from my Palm Treo non PRE.  http://bit.ly/yAw1p
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-----Original Message-----
From: "mafyew Yonson" <mattjohnson2005@gmail.com>;
Date: Wednesday, Mar 4, 2009 10:44 am
Subject: [The UpTake] first message
To: Reply-    tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.comTo: matt@omega.org

Hello, lets talk us about some technology.

--- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at info@theuptake.org ; ---

3 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 6:26:30 PM, Views: 8

mmcintee

Saint Paul, Minnesota
Posts: 109

first! this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or group or something.

Yeah... and this is Mike replying.

4 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 6:37:38 PM, Views: 8

mattjhsn

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 67

ok, that was a great reply.  This is a good thing to get a thread going here.

...and now for something completly different....  email headers!!! ----------------------------------
Return-Path: <>
Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41])
by store38m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
X-Spam-known-sender: yes, "TheUptake", "TheUptakePlus"
X-Spam-score: 0.0
X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.1, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL 0.841,
  BAYES_USED user
X-Backscatter: NotFound1
X-Backscatter-Hosts:
X-Spam-source: IP='209.98.77.13', Host='v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com', Country='US',
  FromHeader='com', MailFrom='unk'
X-Spam-charsets: plain='UTF-8'
X-Delivered-to: matt@omega.org
X-Mail-from:
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  by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
Received: from groups.zanby.com (v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com [209.98.77.13])
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for <matt@omega.org>;; Wed,  4 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500 (EST)
Received: from [10.92.3.250] (helo=zdb.zanby.bogus)
by groups.zanby.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
id 1Lew0M-0004Sb-QU
for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
by zdb.zanby.bogus with smtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
id 1Lew0M-0002fk-OL
for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Reply-To: tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.com
From: "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
Subject: [The UpTake] first message
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <kfzvu6.f8zq3m@localhost>
To: matt@omega.org
END OF EMAIL HEADERS----------------------------------------
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600, "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>; said:
> ------------ QUOTE ------------
> first!  this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or
> group or something.
>
> -------------------------------
> Yeah... and this is Mike replying.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> info@theuptake.org ; ---
>
>

5 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 6:42:30 PM, Views: 7

mattjhsn

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 67

AHH
AHH
AHH
AHH ... I see I'm receiving my own emails back to me.  Very annoying. I'm pretty sure I know what I just said when I AHH ... sent the email 1 minute ago.
HEY
HEY
HEY
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:43 -0600, "Matthew Johnson" <matt@omega.org>; said:
> ok, that was a great reply.  This is a good thing to get a thread going
> here.
>
> ..and now for something completly different....  email headers!!!
> ----------------------------------
> Return-Path: <>
> Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41])
> by store38m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
> Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> X-Spam-known-sender: yes, "TheUptake", "TheUptakePlus"
> X-Spam-score: 0.0
> X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.1, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL 0.841,
>   BAYES_USED user
> X-Backscatter: NotFound1
> X-Backscatter-Hosts:
> X-Spam-source: IP='209.98.77.13', Host='v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com',
> Country='US',
>   FromHeader='com', MailFrom='unk'
> X-Spam-charsets: plain='UTF-8'
> X-Delivered-to: matt@omega.org
> X-Mail-from:
> Received: from mx2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.201])
>   by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> Received: from groups.zanby.com (v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com
> [209.98.77.13])
> by mx2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2504DE8
> for <matt@omega.org>;; Wed,  4 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from [10.92.3.250] (helo=zdb.zanby.bogus)
> by groups.zanby.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> id 1Lew0M-0004Sb-QU
> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
> by zdb.zanby.bogus with smtp (Exim 4.69)
> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> id 1Lew0M-0002fk-OL
> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Reply-To: tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.com
> From: "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> Subject: [The UpTake] first message
> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Message-ID: <kfzvu6.f8zq3m@localhost>
> To: matt@omega.org
> END OF EMAIL HEADERS----------------------------------------
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600, "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> said:
> > ------------ QUOTE ------------
> > first!  this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or
> > group or something.
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > Yeah... and this is Mike replying.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> > info@theuptake.org ; ---
> >
> >
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>
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> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> info@theuptake.org ; ---
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6 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 6:49:58 PM, Views: 7

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 3

Ok, I see this is now a "topic" according to the description in the discussions page.

I'm typing this into the web interface on the uptake. I've changed my email setting so I should start to get this discussion with emails.

7 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 7:01:33 PM, Views: 7

mattjhsn

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 67

Ok I'm answering this message from my email program and I'm leaving the entire thread below intact.  (for now I'm going simulate being as lazy as possible.)

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:54:45 -0600, "Matthew Johnson" <matt@omega.org>; said:
> AHH
> AHH
> AHH
> AHH ... I see I'm receiving my own emails back to me.  Very annoying. I'm
> pretty sure I know what I just said when I AHH ... sent the email 1
> minute ago.
> HEY
> HEY
> HEY
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:43 -0600, "Matthew Johnson" <matt@omega.org>;
> said:
> > ok, that was a great reply.  This is a good thing to get a thread going
> > here.
> >
> > ..and now for something completly different....  email headers!!!
> > ----------------------------------
> > Return-Path: <>
> > Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41])
> > by store38m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
> > Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> > X-Spam-known-sender: yes, "TheUptake", "TheUptakePlus"
> > X-Spam-score: 0.0
> > X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.1, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL 0.841,
> >   BAYES_USED user
> > X-Backscatter: NotFound1
> > X-Backscatter-Hosts:
> > X-Spam-source: IP='209.98.77.13', Host='v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com',
> > Country='US',
> >   FromHeader='com', MailFrom='unk'
> > X-Spam-charsets: plain='UTF-8'
> > X-Delivered-to: matt@omega.org
> > X-Mail-from:
> > Received: from mx2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.201])
> >   by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> > Received: from groups.zanby.com (v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com
> > [209.98.77.13])
> > by mx2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2504DE8
> > for <matt@omega.org>;; Wed,  4 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500 (EST)
> > Received: from [10.92.3.250] (helo=zdb.zanby.bogus)
> > by groups.zanby.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
> > (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> > id 1Lew0M-0004Sb-QU
> > for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
> > by zdb.zanby.bogus with smtp (Exim 4.69)
> > (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> > id 1Lew0M-0002fk-OL
> > for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Reply-To: tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.com
> > From: "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> > Subject: [The UpTake] first message
> > Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Message-ID: <kfzvu6.f8zq3m@localhost>
> > To: matt@omega.org
> > END OF EMAIL HEADERS----------------------------------------
> > On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600, "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> > said:
> > > ------------ QUOTE ------------
> > > first!  this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or
> > > group or something.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------
> > > Yeah... and this is Mike replying.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> > > info@theuptake.org ; ---
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> > info@theuptake.org ; ---
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> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
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8 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 7:04:39 PM, Views: 7

mattjhsn

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 67

Ok, I just received the last two messages out of the order in which they were entered into the system.  The message I typed in from the web was first, but I received it second.   The one I typed in on email I send second, but was received first.  This might be very confusing on a high volume list where people would have to know what was previously said to answer.  The time on both are withing the same minute.

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:04:47 -0600, "mafyew Yonson" <mattjohnson2005@gmail.com>; said:
> Ok, I see this is now a "topic" according to the description in the
> discussions page.
>
> I'm typing this into the web interface on the uptake.  I've changed my
> email setting so I should start to get this discussion with emails.
>
>
>
>
> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> info@theuptake.org ; ---
>
>

9 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 7:12:01 PM, Views: 7

duckstrap

Delano, Minnesota
Posts: 126

Getting your own emails back is standard listserv behavior. You are
posting to a list.  You are on the list.  So you get what is posted to
the list.
It's the same in Google Groups, Yahoo Groups etc. The reason is:  People
like to know that what they have sent has been received.

Matthew Johnson wrote:
> AHH
> AHH
> AHH
> AHH ... I see I'm receiving my own emails back to me.  Very annoying. I'm pretty sure I know what I just said when I AHH ... sent the email 1 minute ago.
> HEY
> HEY
> HEY
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:43 -0600, "Matthew Johnson" <matt@omega.org>; said:
>
>> ok, that was a great reply.  This is a good thing to get a thread going
>> here.
>>
>> ..and now for something completly different....  email headers!!!
>> ----------------------------------
>> Return-Path: <>
>> Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41])
>> by store38m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
>> Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
>> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
>> X-Spam-known-sender: yes, "TheUptake", "TheUptakePlus"
>> X-Spam-score: 0.0
>> X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.1, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL 0.841,
>>   BAYES_USED user
>> X-Backscatter: NotFound1
>> X-Backscatter-Hosts:
>> X-Spam-source: IP='209.98.77.13', Host='v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com',
>> Country='US',
>>   FromHeader='com', MailFrom='unk'
>> X-Spam-charsets: plain='UTF-8'
>> X-Delivered-to: matt@omega.org
>> X-Mail-from:
>> Received: from mx2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.201])
>>   by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
>> Received: from groups.zanby.com (v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com
>> [209.98.77.13])
>> by mx2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2504DE8
>> for <matt@omega.org>;; Wed,  4 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500 (EST)
>> Received: from [10.92.3.250] (helo=zdb.zanby.bogus)
>> by groups.zanby.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
>> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
>> id 1Lew0M-0004Sb-QU
>> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
>> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
>> by zdb.zanby.bogus with smtp (Exim 4.69)
>> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
>> id 1Lew0M-0002fk-OL
>> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Reply-To: tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.com
>> From: "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
>> Subject: [The UpTake] first message
>> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Message-ID: <kfzvu6.f8zq3m@localhost>
>> To: matt@omega.org
>> END OF EMAIL HEADERS----------------------------------------
>> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600, "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
>> said:
>>
>>> ------------ QUOTE ------------
>>> first!  this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or
>>> group or something.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------
>>> Yeah... and this is Mike replying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
>>> info@theuptake.org ; ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
>> info@theuptake.org ; ---
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at info@theuptake.org ; ---
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10 Posted: Mar 4, 2009 7:26:41 PM, Views: 7

mattjhsn

Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 67

Thanks for replying. Did you find the message on the web interface, or was it emailed to you?  I created this group last night to broaden my understanding of zanby discussions.

My experience has been that the "receiving-your-own-emails-feature" may default to being on, but can be turned off as an option. I can see where some people would want it on so they are confident that their reply was processed and sent. I always turn it off because as I mentioned I find it annoying and I don't need the extra volume of email.

For these things I'm sort of 'typing out loud' to learn the software so I'm happy to be wrong and learn how this stuff works.

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:29:52 -0600, "chris dykstra" <chris.dykstra@warecorp.com>; said:
> Getting your own emails back is standard listserv behavior. You are
> posting to a list.  You are on the list.  So you get what is posted to
> the list.
> It's the same in Google Groups, Yahoo Groups etc. The reason is:  People
> like to know that what they have sent has been received.
>
> Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > AHH
> > AHH
> > AHH
> > AHH ... I see I'm receiving my own emails back to me.  Very annoying. I'm pretty sure I know what I just said when I AHH ... sent the email 1 minute ago.
> > HEY
> > HEY
> > HEY
> > On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:44:43 -0600, "Matthew Johnson" <matt@omega.org>; said:
> >
> >> ok, that was a great reply.  This is a good thing to get a thread going
> >> here.
> >>
> >> ..and now for something completly different....  email headers!!!
> >> ----------------------------------
> >> Return-Path: <>
> >> Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41])
> >> by store38m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.13-fmsvn17970-5c1c69c4) with LMTPA;
> >> Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> >> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3
> >> X-Spam-known-sender: yes, "TheUptake", "TheUptakePlus"
> >> X-Spam-score: 0.0
> >> X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -2.599, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.1, SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL 0.841,
> >>   BAYES_USED user
> >> X-Backscatter: NotFound1
> >> X-Backscatter-Hosts:
> >> X-Spam-source: IP='209.98.77.13', Host='v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com',
> >> Country='US',
> >>   FromHeader='com', MailFrom='unk'
> >> X-Spam-charsets: plain='UTF-8'
> >> X-Delivered-to: matt@omega.org
> >> X-Mail-from:
> >> Received: from mx2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.201])
> >>   by compute1.internal (LMTPProxy); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500
> >> Received: from groups.zanby.com (v-209-98-77-13.mn.visi.com
> >> [209.98.77.13])
> >> by mx2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2504DE8
> >> for <matt@omega.org>;; Wed,  4 Mar 2009 13:39:44 -0500 (EST)
> >> Received: from [10.92.3.250] (helo=zdb.zanby.bogus)
> >> by groups.zanby.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
> >> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> >> id 1Lew0M-0004Sb-QU
> >> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> >> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1])
> >> by zdb.zanby.bogus with smtp (Exim 4.69)
> >> (envelope-from <mmcintee@mac.com>;)
> >> id 1Lew0M-0002fk-OL
> >> for matt@omega.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> >> MIME-Version: 1.0
> >> Reply-To: tech-issues.The-UpTake@groups.zanby.com
> >> From: "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> >> Subject: [The UpTake] first message
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> Message-ID: <kfzvu6.f8zq3m@localhost>
> >> To: matt@omega.org
> >> END OF EMAIL HEADERS----------------------------------------
> >> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:39:42 -0600, "Michael McIntee" <mmcintee@mac.com>;
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> ------------ QUOTE ------------
> >>> first!  this is my first message on the tech-issues discussion topic. or
> >>> group or something.
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------------
> >>> Yeah... and this is Mike replying.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- This message was sent from http://theuptake.org  email us at
> >>> info@theuptake.org ; ---
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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